Statement of the Archdiocese of Manila on Conviction of Mr. Carlos Celdran

The Archdiocese of Manila did not pursue the Case against Mr. Carlos Celdran for Violation of Article 133 of the Revised Penal Code. While deeply disturbed by the incident, then Manila Archbishop Gaudencio B. Cardinal Rosales gave instructions for the Archdiocese to no longer pursue the case. The Criminal Case against Mr. Celdran was pursued by the State represented by the Public Prosecutor and a lay private prosecutor. Based on the Decision of the Court the prosecution presented four witnesses, none of whom were from the Archdiocese of Manila. Three of the witnesses were from the Episcopal Commission on Biblical Apostolate of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines which organized the event at the Cathedral where Mr. Celdran performed the deed he was prosecuted for. One was a regular mass goer at the Manila Cathedral who was present at the event.Cardinal Rosales has long forgiven Mr. Celdran.

How the case on appeal proceeds from hereon is not up to the Archdiocese of Manila or the Church but to the Courts.

Released for the Archdiocese of Manila by

Archdiocesan Office of Communications

  • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

    So you wash your hands like Pontius Pilate on this issue?!nnYou people are no different to the Jews and Pharisees who wanted Jesus Crucified… you people make me sick.

    • edcv27

      thats how are legal system works, it may be a painful outcome for all of us, but thats the law. so we need to be prudent in all our actions; if we can’t take the consequences then we need to think twice before doing such disrespectful behavior.

    • http://www.facebook.com/alleopars09 Allan Leo Paran

      And the act of public display of arrogance and bigotry doesn’t make you sick?

      • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

        NO, THIS IS ARROGANCE and BIGOTRY!!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

          Nice, using the bigotry card is not always good. It’s a double edged sword. Use it and you shall be slashed too. Bleed to death if you must. How do you see your whining in this thread? How do you see yourself looking down on the rights of the people who filed a complaint in the proper court? Yes, you are a bigot. Bigotry my foot. You are the biggest hypocrite bigot of them all.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

            I’m sorry, I guess you must’ve forgotten about The Inquisition, The Spanish Inquisition, Trials of Galileo, and Newton, Auschwitz, Dachau, Sobibor, Trebelinka, The Final Solution on Jews, O.D.E.S.S.A., The Pedophile Cases… and so on and so forth… and call the institution which is more or less homophobic and misogynistic that even Nuns aren’t allowed Priesthood and you support and portray as Tolerant, Just, and Merciful.nnn…and I’m the Bigot, way to make a point for yourself, Dumbass!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001332096509 Joh Ker

      What “IF” mr celdran.. calling you as an “ASSHOLE” inside your house? would you tolerate his action..?

      • http://twitter.com/followmomukamu Dan Gerald

        Kung may dahilan siya para tawagin akong ganun, ok lang sa akin. Pero hindi ko siya ipapakulong katulad ng ginawa kay Celdran.

      • jefferson

        did carlos call the church asshole? he protested against their meddling with female reproductive rights. don’t be ignorant. :-)

        • frankie609

          Carlos doesn’t need to, it already is. Meddling with politics? Keeping the poor poor so they remain ignorant and clinging to the hopes the church sells? You can’t go lower than that.

      • Jessie Ibanez

        If he calls me an asshole inside my house, I would kick him out. nnPapapulis ko pa ba siya? Kung magwawala siya sa bahay ko at magisisra ng gamit, oo. Kung mananakit siya ng tao, mas lalong papulis ko siya at ipapakulong. Pero, ang sabihan akong asshole lang? Most probably not because I can simply kick him out of my own private house. Tatawanan lang ako ng pulis pag pinandamput ko siya at sabihin kaya ko siya ipakukulong dahil sinabihan niya akong asshole.

        • http://www.facebook.com/neil.marcos Neil Ryan Marcos

          tatawanan k ng pulis dahil pinadampot mo siya for that? hahaha you are the one who is making me laugh… you clearly don’t understand how the law works. you have your rights. utilizing them isn’t a joke.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

            Seriously, the ignorance of some people here about the law is a big joke. They wouldn’t know how to use the law to protect their rights even their life depends on it.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

        So? Doesn’t hurt me… he can say whatever the fuck he wants to say as long as it doesn’t hurt me (Physically).

    • skyblueman

      With all due respect to you sir.. So you think Carlos Celdran is Jesus Christ on the issue? Well, nawawala na po ata yung focus nyo sa issue. Ang issue dito ay ang kawalang respeto na ginawa ni Ginoong Celdran. Ang insidenteng ito ay may proteksyon sa batas. Nabasa niyo naman na pinatawad naman ho ng kardinal si Celdran ngunit may mga taong nasaktan at nabastusan sa pangyayari. May mga taong humihingi ng hustisya sa nangyari. Ginawa lang po nila ang karapatan nila sa batas. Kaya huwag niyo po ibato agaran sa Simbahan ang sisi. Ito po ay nasa batas at may nagawang paglabag. Nararapat na ipataw ang dapat ipataw. Korte at estado po ang humusga nito. nnAt kung ganyan din ang gusto niyong sabihin, wala rin po kayong pagkakaiba sa mga taong mababaw, nasulsulan at sumigaw na palayain si Barabas para ipapatay si Hesus.

      • Jessie Ibanez

        And man’s law is faulty. If we don’t look at them and criticize them once in awhile, we are in big danger of falling in the trap of not improving. I’m sure our God would’nt want us to be stuck in ruts following rules that will not make us better. nnThe penal code law in this issue was made since 1930. 2013 na po, madami ng nagbago. Time to reflect first if the law we created (or those people who created it) are still applicable now.

        • http://www.facebook.com/neil.marcos Neil Ryan Marcos

          no….. you don’t understand. yes, the church should be criticized, but there is a venue for everything. some people consider the occasion a holy service. people should respect that. i mean, no one goes to you when you are in your bathroom to criticize you in the face, right? it is that simple.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

        Then who the fuck pursued the case for 2 fucking years? GOD?!

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

          Read and be enlightened. Unless you have reading comprehension. Damn it, you make me sick.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

            Boy, you suck at insults aren’t you?

    • http://www.facebook.com/mapeh.time Mapeh Time

      clearly, u seem to be a non-catholic who just make use of this issue to bash us. More disturbing is if ur a Catholic. A wolf among the flock.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

        Funny how you distinguish people as docile sheep being led to the slaughter, if the priest told you to jump would you do it too?

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

          See? Distorting words of others just to justify your point. That’s intellectual dishonesty. Nowhere can you see docile, slaughter in others posts. You added it. Very devilish attitude.nnnNow, if Dawkins said that you must jump, would you?

          • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

            Read his book, not much of a fan of Dawkins. Sorry, Nice Try though.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1567477108 Jan Francis J. Godisan

      I do agree to you at some point…but behaving like this especially in this site isn’t very wise for us… I suggest we scram

      • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

        No, I thrive in this throw me in the den of lions like Daniel I make sure I give them what’s coming to them.

    • Robert Ragudo

      the Church’s reaction is rather benign; perhaps Celdran, supported by the hysterical, bleeding heart knee jerker Rina Jimenez David, should try his stunt in a mosque or in the halls of the supreme court…

      • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

        Or, how about you launch the 10th Crusade and see how well that goes for you.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

          How about showing a little respect? Ah, it will be too hard for the likes of you. nnnnDon’t you think it’s odd that amongst the rabid supporters of RH Law, only Celdran was jailed? In my book, there are lots of more obnoxious people on the net and in the media (columnists of Inquirer are one of them), but none of them even received a slap on the wrist from the CBCP. nnnnOh! Have fun eating your words.

          • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

            Yeah way to make a point at a church that like to give cheap shots as something as the RH Bill, and then hide under their shield of piety, and separation of church and state to prove a point. nnnnI don’t find it Odd, in fact I find it ballsy for someone to put up an act like that and portray how much of a hypocrite these priests can be. If you’re the messenger of God, and you bring salvation to billions of people, ACT THE FUCK LIKE IN YOUR TENETS!!

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

      You make me sick. The idi0t people like you don’t understand that this archaic law is still a law and needs to be implemented unless we want to become a society ruled by men. Geesh. You’re horrible.nnnBesides, if you think that this law is irrelevant, then ask the good senators and congressmen to repeal the law. Criticizing the church won’t get you anywhere. Don’t fault the members of the church who were offended by the circus-like staged performance by Celdran. They are just following the LAW. Unlike this Celdran and you who don’t understand a thing.

      • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

        So you admit that it’s archaic? Under Jurisprudence I can sue the Catholic Church as well with that law, it’s gonna be hell for the Judiciary, but you know IT WORKS BOTH WAYS!!

  • jefferson

    Public display and arrogance ang ginawa ni Carlos? Followers of this church have always been stup*dly blind. The Philippines will always be poor and backwards and ignorant because of the church. They meddle with laws against human rights. Carlos did it to protest against the bigotry and ignorance spread by the Catholic church.

    • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

      YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE SAYING. THE ISSUE HERE IS NOT ABOUT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH… ITS THE DISRESPECTFUL ACT OR ARROGANCE DONE INSIDE THE CHURCH. TRY DOING IT INSIDE THE OTHER CHURCHES ESPECIALLY MOSQUE. EWAN KO LANG KUNG MAKAKALABAS PA SIYANG BUO ANG MUKHA.

      • jefferson

        Because the st*pid Catholic church is the one disrespectful to the human rights of many Filipinos. Sila ang bastus. What Carlos did was nothing compared to the damage the Damasos have done to this country.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

          KELAN NAGING BASTOS ANG SIMBAHAN? UMIKKOT KA SA MGA SQUATTERS SA MANILA… ALAM MO BA KUNG SINO ANG BUMABABAD ARAW ARAW SA KANILA? ANG BAWAT PAROKYA/SIMBAHAN. HINDE MO ALAM? KASI HINDE KAILANGAN IMEDYA NG SIMBAHAN LAHAT NG GALAW NILA. IKAW, ANO ANG NAGAWA MO SA PILIPINAS PARA UMANGAT? SALITA KA NG SALITA… MAGMASID KA MUNA SA PALIBOT.nSINO BA NAGPAPAHIRAP SA ATIN ANG SIMBAHAN O ANG CORRUPT NA MGA POLITICIANS?

          • jefferson

            only 3% of the catholic church’s money goes to charity. they spend millions every year, however, for legal cases ng mga obispo at pari nila, for cases like rape and pedophilia. our corrupt politicians and our CBCP are partners in making the filipinos more dumb and poor. do your research okay?

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

            DO YOU HAVE BASIS? SHOW IT. FALLACIOUS ANG MGA STATEMENT MO. WAG KAGAWA NG GAWA NG KWNETO DEAR. MAGTANONG KA SA SIMBAHAN PANO GUMALAW ANG FUND. MAGTANONG KA SA QUIAPO CHURCH ILANG MAHIHIRAP ANG NATUTULUNGAN NILA.nAND BESIDES, BE EDUCATED IN MAKING COMMENTS. TANONG KO NGA SA IYO..IKAW BILANG PINOY ANO ANG NAGAWA MO NA SA BAYAN? MAY NATULUNGAN KA NA BANG MAHIRAP? BAKA PURO KA LANG SALITA/LAWAY…

          • jefferson

            again, do your research. sayang ka sa oras ko kasi amb*b* mo :-)

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

            I KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING DEAR. I DID MY RESEARCH BEFORE. YOU DO YOUR PART SO THAT YOU WONT APPEAR LIKE A PUFF OF AIR.

          • frankie609

            Alam ko kung paano umiikot ang funds. Ginagastos sa magarang lifestyle ng mga pari. I know this because I worked directly under them before. Sa dami nilang abuloy na nalikom, kakarimpot lang yang sinasabi mong naitulong nila kumpara sa perang nahakot nila sa kasal at binyag pa lamang. Hindi pa kasama ang mga negosyo ng simbahan.

          • Jessie Ibanez

            Ang nagawa namin sa Pinas para umangat ay magtrabaho araw-araw. % ng salary namin (or personal business sa iba) ay nababawasan ng tax. :) At ang tax ay napupunta sa Government na ginagamit nila sa mga programs.nnPag nagsisimba naman po kame, minsan nagdodonate po kame ng pera sa abuloy. At ang pera nakokolekta ng Simbahan ay ginagamit nila sa mga projects nila. nnTherefore, Mr. Coco, ang pera ng government at simabahan… sa mga mamayang Pilipino din nangagaling. Tayong lahat yun (assuming you also work). 100% tumutulong po kame sa paganggat ng bansa.

          • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

            I UNDERSTAND THAT… PERO ALAM MO BA KUNG ANONG PROGRAMA ANG SA SIMBAHAN? DITO SA PINA ALAM MO BA KUNG ILAN ANG NATUTULUNGAN NG MGA PAROKYA SA MGA COINS SA BINIBIGAYA NATIN?nMARAMI TAYONG HINDE ALAM ANO? DAHIL ANG SIMBAHAN GUMAGALAW/TUMUTULONG KAHIT WALANG KAMERA. TRY TO REASEARCH THE PROGRAMS OF EVERY PARISH OR DICOESE DEAR AND YOU WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT I MEAN.

          • frankie609

            Naging bastos ang simbihan simula pa noong nakialam ito sa politika. Hanggang ngayon. Umiikot kamo? PR lang yan. Kung hindi sila naki alam sa politika, mas konti na lang sana ang squatter ngaun. Actually, gusto nila ng maraming squatter para bumenta sila. That explains why against sila sa progressive laws.

      • Jessie Ibanez

        Celdran won’t do it in a mosque because muslims are not the ones agaisnt RH bill. :) ) Your logic is irrelevant. nnDisrespectful act inside the church, probably. It’s the house of God right. I can agree with that to you. Although, then that would mean the right peson to be MORE angry and punish Celdran is God himself? nnPriests, bishops.. they are still human. No one can still replace God. If Celdran issued a mayhem like destroying materials in the church or ensued a mass killing spree, yun patapon niyo siya sa kulungan. May sayad na yan. Pero ang ginawa niya? Ang babaw para ikulong.

        • http://profile.yahoo.com/XAPTOKB6LGSAVXQMUD5H2BOM3U Coco

          EXAMPLE YAN…. HINDE MO MAGETS???? ANG ISSUE DITO HINDE RH BILL. ANG DIRESPECTFUL ACT MISMO. “WAT IF” ANG ACT NA IYAN AY GINAWA SA IBANG SIMBAHAN O SA ISANG MOSQUE… ANO SA TINGIN MO ANG MANGYAYARI? MAY WAT IF NA IYAN HA….

          • jefferson

            ang b*b* mo lang mag analyse at makipag argue. sayang sa oras :-)

          • Jessie Ibanez

            Sir, hyper ka? :D Gets ko point niyo, Sir. Pero parang highblood kayo sa capslock niyo. Hinay hingay lang. :) nn Honestly? I don’t know. Because I’m Catholic born and ang church lang napuntahan ko is Catholic and Born Again Christian (then again any place can be a church for Born Agains). Anyway, other religion churches will react differently. And I can’t speak for them. nnAnd still, your ‘direspectful act’ question to other churches are irrelevant. Issue happened at a Catholic Church. Stick to the incident and we can have a better discussion here.

      • frankie609

        This wouldn’t have happened if your church doesn’t meddle with politics. Your church need to start paying taxes.

    • http://www.facebook.com/clefferson.tulud Clefferson Tulud

      excuse me sir, are you sharing your views about mr. celdran’s verdict? or you are totally attacking the catholic church? my goodness, pati naman dito naglipana ang mga protestante. tama nga , you are the wolves, seeking for the ruin of souls. ang labo na po kc ng topic nyo eh. hindi tungkol kay mr. carlos, reminder lang po, ito po ay isang news website for catholics, and yet you are making it as a debate cneter. hindi na pagbibigay ng opinyon tungkol kay mr. celdran’s case eh, paninira na ng puri at dangal. ikaw kaya, try mong sabihin sa ibang sekta iyan. tignan natin kung di sila mag saside comment. kase naman eh, kaya kampi kayo sa gobyerno or sa state dahil malakas kapit ng mga ministro or pastor or pari parian sa mga politicians. kaya ngayon, nag aalsa kayo dahil against ang simbahan sa corruption of the government.para lang kayo maka salungat, makiki oo na kayo sa gusto ng mga politicians., . my goodness. baka ano pa masabi ko. paalala ko ulit, hindi ito debate blog. its a church news website. kung gus2 nyo, manira kayo sa ibang sekta, wag dito.

      • frankie609

        Use good arguments and reasoning to defend your stance. If you feel attacked then defend your stance. If you can’t defend, then the only reasonable response would be to change your stance and have a change of heart and mind. By the way, not everyone here is protestant.

        • http://www.facebook.com/clefferson.tulud Clefferson Tulud

          wag mong linalahat. not all of the catholics are like that. just see to it naman. yung mga charity na ginagawa ng mga pari, mga simbahan para sa mga tao. a great example nyan ay si mother teresa at si cardinal sin. they do practice what they teach. regarding on the topic, i know that not all of the people who commented here are protestants. but what is the difference? they do protest against the church rights. sila pa may ganang magalit samantalang hindi na nga pinaburan ng cardinal ang kaso, at pinatawad na niya si mr. celdran. kaso, sabi mo nga, ibigay kay ceasar ang kay ceasar, meaning, ibigay kay celdran ang nararapat kay celdran. eh lumabag cia sa batas eh. eh wala ng magagawa ang simbahan dun. its beyond the line. khit nga ang pagkapasa ng rh bill hindi sang ayon ang simbahan. eh, may magagawa ba sila? again, its beyond the line. at huwag mong isali si Jesus dito, sapagkat siya naman may sabi na, “the house of my Father shall be a house of prayer, not a house of thieves”. sanay maliwanag na sayo aking kaibigan. iyon lamang.

  • http://www.facebook.com/jhundags1 Federico Daguro

    The damage had been done and the verdict is given….every act (particularly wrong/evil) has a consequence… tama lang yong Parusa sa Celdran na yan,,, after all He commited sin.. kung ako nga lang ang masusunod… the mere fact, na may verdict na sa kanya ang court,,,, it can be a bases already for his ex-communacation in the Catholic Church… I think its about time na baguhin na ng simbahan ang subrang kabaitan..

    • frankie609

      I agree that the church should excummunicate as many people as possible. The next thing we need is to lessen the number of people being brainwashed.

    • http://www.facebook.com/Thraxification Bernardo R. Benedicto IV

      Have Ratzinger reinstate Actus formalis defecionnis ab ecclessia Catholica

  • http://www.facebook.com/carmell.sagrado Carmell Sagrado

    unless mr. celdran is not in his right mind, he must face up to the consequences of his own actions – that’s what a mature person does. needless to say, he’s not a little kid.

  • http://www.facebook.com/MarDan02 MarDan Villaflores

    Is it true that that the title of the case where “Mr. Carlos Celdran was convicted is “People of the Philippines versus Carlos Celdran”? Meaning, it was the “People of the Philippines” that accused Celdran not the Archdiocese of Manila. .

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001565433198 Rolly Antonio

    Clearly, a lot of ignoramus on the net dragging the name of the church. Lots of cry-babies, whiners if you must. nnnnFools, you are barking at the wrong tree. Ask the senators and congressmen to repeal the law. nnnnBesides, your right to free expression ends where my right begins. We have a right to peaceful worship. You don’t have the right to disturb it. That’s pretty simple, isn’t it? I don’t know how stup!d you are, but I hope it knocks some sense into your heads.

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